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Post by grunners4 on Feb 14, 2011 7:31:26 GMT
what do you train on (mostly)? I was wondering what everyone thought about how different surfaces impact on training (especially how it affects explosiveness etc) I have trained on everything from those sponge competition mats (actually trained mostly on these), to wood (favourite), linoleum flooring (used for aerobics), beach sand and even bare concrete for a year or two. Which do you find are most conducive to longevity? Wear on joints, shin splints etc With the sponge I find it more forgiving but wonder if doesn't "sap" some of the energy of a technique? Newtons laws of motions coming here
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Post by fujicolt on Feb 14, 2011 18:50:57 GMT
i prefer traditional sprung wooden floor but mats seem to be the norm now.
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Post by Paul Bedard on Feb 15, 2011 6:03:11 GMT
The best floor that I ever trained on was the one that we had in my dojo when we owned the building. We had put in a sprung floor, using 1 &1/2 " thick by 4" round medium density rubber discks. We attached them to the bottom of 2"x4" boards about 16" apart, had these on the bottom as we put the 2"x4" boards down flat about 20" apart. Then we screwed 5/8" douglas fir tongue & grooved, good one side plywood over top. Sanded the seams, put a urethane sealer down , lightly sanded, then placed 6 more coats of Urathane, sanding between coats. One year later added 2 more coats, then the following year another 2 coats. We had 11 coats of Urathane on that floor, it was so easy to keep clean & man, could you jump, even stretching seemed to produce better results. Easiest floor on the knees that I have ever trained on. But alas, couldn`t afford to keep the building, as the economy of our town died for many a year. The building became financial combustion, but the one thing that I miss is my floor. One of my students has put in a similar floor in her basement, it`s a treat to train on that floor. One day, I`ll put one in my basement.. Thanks for bringing up this post Steve, for quite some time it hurt to think of it, but I`m just having a fond memory at the moment!! Osu Paul B
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Post by Paul Bedard on Feb 15, 2011 6:06:27 GMT
I`m Sorry!! Andrew started this post, I was so deep down memory lane, that I had a case of mistaken identity!! My apologies Andrew, thanks for allowing me to share, what once was.. Osu Paul B
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Post by grunners4 on Feb 15, 2011 9:11:27 GMT
no worries! Do you think training on mats actually helps you when you get onto a sprung floor? almost like when you train with weights attached to ankles...by training on a mat and expending more energy to achieve the same result you are actually benefiting? Newton laws apply to rigid bodies and you are not rigid so they are only an approximation. @ Garage: I could be wrong but isn't the other way around - Newtons Laws don't actually speak to rigid bodies, rather the particle (which makes up your body). So it would apply..... Just being technical - didn't do all that well in high school science anyway
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Post by Paul Bedard on Feb 16, 2011 0:12:18 GMT
When we have our Nationals, generally due to the floor provided by the venue used, we bring in mats. The general comment is; `sure hate those mats, whish we could have a good dojo floor`. Too much friction, your feet sink into them, slippery with a little sweat, are just a few of the comments. Osu Paul B
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Post by kensei on Feb 21, 2011 17:37:25 GMT
I am not going into the newtonian theory and such, it ends up mucking up perfectly good logic in the end Truth is that most people, including myself, end up proving my grand father correct more times than not ....a little knowledge and a good vocabulary usually ends up being dangerous and leading to far to much chatter and...I think he used the term fermuckting...but I am not great at Welsh Yiddish! The best floor that I trained on was the old Dojo floor on Albert street in Winnipeg. the building had been an old ware house and it had a beautiful wood floor, on both floors. The worst floor I had trained on was a particle board painted floor that was just not stable and slippery. I think flooring should be based on the type of training you are doing. A wood floor in a gym is great, a sprung floor better for striking training. Especially bare foot. It gives you the kind of ridged stability you need along with a bit of give...especially the sprung floor. Matt floors are best for sweep training and grappling like BJJ. Judo may need some extra mats for the throwing. I did Judo on a lightly matted floor at a camp and threw my shoulder out completely. At home I have matt floors because the linoliem floor is slippery and older, in the basement I found that the matts worked well for individual training but I would love to throw in a hard wood floor in my next home.
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Post by fujicolt on Feb 21, 2011 20:34:01 GMT
I am not going into the newtonian theory and such, it ends up mucking up perfectly good logic in the end Truth is that most people, including myself, end up proving my grand father correct more times than not ....a little knowledge and a good vocabulary usually ends up being dangerous and leading to far to much chatter and...I think he used the term fermuckting...but I am not great at Welsh Yiddish! The best floor that I trained on was the old Dojo floor on Albert street in Winnipeg. the building had been an old ware house and it had a beautiful wood floor, on both floors. The worst floor I had trained on was a particle board painted floor that was just not stable and slippery. I think flooring should be based on the type of training you are doing. A wood floor in a gym is great, a sprung floor better for striking training. Especially bare foot. It gives you the kind of ridged stability you need along with a bit of give...especially the sprung floor. Matt floors are best for sweep training and grappling like BJJ. Judo may need some extra mats for the throwing. I did Judo on a lightly matted floor at a camp and threw my shoulder out completely. At home I have matt floors because the linoliem floor is slippery and older, in the basement I found that the matts worked well for individual training but I would love to throw in a hard wood floor in my next home. a perfect analysis IMHO =
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