Great minds think alike vitruvius!! I was going to ask fujicolt that same question--with an added ''presumably, it was all wrong before the '70s in that case then and if so, was it ever right to learn it in the first place''? (confused now me is!!)
Think I`ll stir the pot on this one! ;D The term block to me means to stop the technique, to parry kind of means to move it, A lot of what we do in uke or barai is to move it. However a move like kosu uke (cross arm block), would be to stop the technique. Malk suggested that you need arms like Popeye if you use this to stop a kick. In other posts I read, execution & distance & using the right move. Yes!!! Now if we took that same X block (kosu) & instead of trying to catch the ankle at the end of the kick & instead used it to jam the leg just bellow the knee as it was coming up, before the leg started to extend, of course driving the body forward to the kicking leg & closing distance, this might be a more appropriate use of this block. As far as asking if our uke techniques work, well of course they do, just not always in their true basic large form. I think that Jim suggested this. I have used age uke as a defence very sucessfully against a haymaker type technique & when the guy stood there with this look of disbelief I threw 5 punches in his face, stopping just shy of hitting him. This was in a large house party in a crowded room, I didn`t really want to hurt anyone, so gave him a warning. It worked & later he came to apologize & told me that evryone was telling him that I was a nice guy & he believed that, as I could have hit him, but chose not to. From a guard position I have used a shorter version of soto uke against a stomach punch & have used gedan barai continuing the sweep & hooking the leg & throwing him on his butt. To me in a way the saying of deep stances for beginners & shorter stances for seniors, also pertains to uke. Large action for beginners & much shorter actions for fighting applications. I`m choosing not to get hung up on `what is a block`, `a parry`, `a sweep`, etc,,, but trying to answer what I believe to be a question on our defensive techniques. `Do they work`? Of course they do, just not always in the large action we use in basics. These we do large techniques to train the body, so that when we have developed connection & shorten them up they just might work.. Osu Paul B
Post by Allan Shepherd on Feb 5, 2012 10:40:27 GMT
Me thinks the whole "block" question amounts to the interpretation one places on the likes of uke which we are informed means block for simplicity when it actually means receive, what and how we receive is then open to conjecture. The question "do they work" is simply yes and no. I first came across uke when doing judo/jujitsu in the early 60's along with tori and was given to understand the terms mean receive and give. How long is a piece of string comes to mind. Someone once said to me that you do not have to be hit by a bus head on to know that it is going to hurt, better to step out of the way.
Thank you Michael, Paul and Allan for contributing!
I really enjoyed Paul's experience at the party. To me this is the real meaning of self defense, where you used your knowledge and confidence to diffuse a confrontation. This should always be the aim of every karateka, to preserve life. Thank you for sharing!
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