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Post by dhodge on Mar 9, 2013 10:58:43 GMT
I work in the prison system in Scotland here the knife culture is alive and kicking. The small town we live in is an ex mining community (12000 inhabitants) with a growing drug problem and its ensuing crime related activity. Whilst it is only 5% of our community as a whole who would carry a knife and commit criminal acts these are the ones who are most likely to attack you with one. The villages around here have always had rough reputation and punch ups are common but the increased use of knifes has seen stabbings and slashings almost every week. Back to the point on no first attack is this not unrealistic to think we can all block and counter when attacked. If you think the attack has started at the change of body language from unoffensive to offensive is the first attack already happened? Sorry to ramble but i cannot get my head around waiting to be attacked before using our skills and martial art!
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Post by kensei on Mar 9, 2013 12:26:10 GMT
I agree with you Dhodge....why wait. if you know the guy is going to attack you or even threatening to do so....smash him in the nose! While Funakoshi may have thought fighting was bellow him...getting me arse kicked is what I see as bellow me!  |
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Mar 9, 2013 18:08:53 GMT
Hi Derek
The "Muffty Squad" within the Prison Service is a classical interpretation of "no first attack" when inmates have exhausted all lines of communication for a resolution with the staff on duty. They take the process one step further, initially with dialogue followed by various degrees of SEN that are APPROPRIATE to the ongoing situation.
Best Regards
Allan
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Post by dhodge on Mar 9, 2013 21:04:39 GMT
Correct Allan a measured response to the situation, James I am like you though not as efficient in the martial arts why wait to be hit it may damage my good looks (lol)
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Post by garage on Mar 10, 2013 9:19:51 GMT
To smash them in the nose would suggest that their nose is pointing at you, therefore it is likely their eyes are looking at you. Which must mean you are facing them off and you are at the sharp end.
It would be better to approach from behind, before they know you are there, at the blunt end, this would give you a better chance of survival and keeping your job. Breaking someone's nose is unlikely to be an appropriate response unless you can make it look an accident.
The longer it goes on the more risk there is to your good looks.
See Jack Dempsey "Championship Boxing and aggressive defence" which discusses the same ideas.
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