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Post by malk103 on Nov 16, 2012 21:36:51 GMT
A question came up tonight about the leg to knee moves in Tekki 1 just before halfway and near the end. The foot is raised towards the opposite knee followed by a "blocking" motion, repeated left/right.
In some vids I've seen the foot is snapped back to the opposite knee, in others it goes in front of the knee and in others it is more in front of the opposite thigh. Are any of these favourite?
For applications, if you were moving your lower leg out of the way of something then it wouldn't matter where it ended - just so long as it moved. If it is being used as a leg sweep then it may be more practical to have it move in front of the opposite knee or higher. To further strengthen the case for the leg sweep then that could turn the Morote Uke into an arm lock - your left leg sweeps their right leg towards your right as you lock their right arm and twist towards the left. Then all done on the opposite side to keep a balance in the Bunkai.
Is there a right position for the foot or a better Bunkai that I'm not seeing yet?
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Nov 16, 2012 22:35:26 GMT
Hello Mal
The technique is called Nami Ashi and it has so many applications in addition to those in Tekki Shodan.
Best Regards Allan
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Post by Paul Bedard on Nov 17, 2012 1:35:15 GMT
Hi Mal good question & no totally correct answer. Returning wave kick. We try to do it by the foot going to the front of the opposite knee, but don`t forget to raise the knee of the kicking foot to engage the lower abdominals,when thinking compression & expansion, compress the abdominals during the kick & expand during the return. As far as bunkai, this can be a sweep, it can be a defence from being swept, it can be an attack to the knee of someone close to you, it can be a defence against a kick, as Allan mention there are many applications. Remember that all body styles are not created equal & sometimes the differences that we see are simply because that is what the persons body allows them to do. Also of course there is interpretation.
Osu
Paul B
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Post by nathanso on Nov 17, 2012 6:58:17 GMT
Th way I learned it is the way that it is described in Best Karate, and can be seen both on the JKA "blue video" as well as in Kanazawa's T1 video: the lower leg is parallel to the floor, with the foot more in front of the groin rather than the opposite thigh or knee, and COG unchanged from where it was in kiba dachi. This was explained when I learned it in the stupid application days of the late 1960's as blocking a kick. As others already said, you would change it for other applications/targets.
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Post by malk103 on Nov 17, 2012 10:19:46 GMT
Thanks all, just looked in Best Karate and it clearly shows the foot should be aimed towards the groin/thigh area. For people like me that are 40+ and have had too many years behind a desk and not practicing Karate then my leg (so far) only comes up to knee level. Guessing there are plenty of others in the same boat. ;D I've also seen an exercise of linking fingers, palms down around the groin area and then trying to kick your hands while maintaining Kiba Dachi, so will be adding this to the warm ups!
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Post by andyupton on Nov 17, 2012 10:53:04 GMT
Thanks all, just looked in Best Karate and it clearly shows the foot should be aimed towards the groin/thigh area. For people like me that are 40+ and have had too many years behind a desk and not practicing Karate then my leg (so far) only comes up to knee level. Guessing there are plenty of others in the same boat. ;D I've also seen an exercise of linking fingers, palms down around the groin area and then trying to kick your hands while maintaining Kiba Dachi, so will be adding this to the warm ups![/quote] We've done this too ! A couple of years ago ! I have also taught it as a kick to inside your opponents knee after being grabbed to break his balance (or his knee !)
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Nov 17, 2012 11:28:22 GMT
During last weekend's Blackpool seminar with Andre Bertel we practiced this technique from a kamae position (as oppossed to a kiba dachi position) during kicking/blocking techniques.
As the attacker lifts the kicking leg the defender blocks BEFORE the kicking leg is extended. It MUST be performed VERY SHARP with great IMPETUS to be effective, if not the kick WILL find the target.
Best Regards Allan
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Post by snorri1 on Nov 17, 2012 17:46:56 GMT
As you say Allan you have to be sharp with it. I wasn't quick enough and took a shin kick to the sole of my foot and it's still sore a week later.
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Post by nathanso on Nov 17, 2012 22:29:10 GMT
I've also seen an exercise of linking fingers, palms down around the groin area and then trying to kick your hands while maintaining Kiba Dachi, so will be adding this to the warm ups! I usually have the lower belts do it this way and the upper belts do it with their arms down. BTW, I think that it is better do do this after the class is already warmed up.
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Post by jimlukelkc on Nov 18, 2012 19:51:29 GMT
As Alan says there are many applications for this movement. I think the most unlikely one is that it is used to block a kick. This would pre-suppose that your opponent was going to kick you using a karate kick ( mae-geri is about the only kick you can make this work against ) which is too specific. It can certainly be used to destabilise your opponent by kicking to the knee; this is unlikely to break the knee considering the angle. there is is also a target about 4 inches up from the knee on the inner thigh which is very painful and debilitating of struck correctly. Combine that with the the hand techniques and this is a very good close quarter response.
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Post by Gerry Boyce on Nov 23, 2012 16:44:53 GMT
I think of using this kick while perpendicular to my opponent in a standing "grappling" situation, where it's either applied to the back of the knee, front of the knee or shin to off-balence the person, then take them down with the quick hip movement that follows.
Personally, when I practice Tekki Shodan I kick to the inside of the opposite knee as a reminder to where I would apply it.
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