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Post by garage on Mar 23, 2013 13:18:24 GMT
We have a few inches of snow at the moment so have made the most of it and practiced some katas.
The snow soon tells you when you are finishing a kata that you haven't sunk down and drawn back you have pushed off the front foot.
It lets you know you have your body over your hips and you are not over reaching.
Unsu I cannot get enough height off the snow to make 270 degrees in the kick.
Kanku sho rolling out of bed kick is ok.
Sanchin kata feels really stable more so than sochin.
The last punch in enpi the foot goes back and I cannot stablise it as ther is no grip.
Making distance as in sparring just over commits and you cannot stop.
Unsu the floor kicks are cold as you roll in the snow but softer.
wooden weapons are warmer to touch..
I think a snowman is next.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 14:12:17 GMT
The most consistent theme present in all shotokan katas when practicing in the snow is cold feet and high risk of frostbite. In this weather I concentrate on cuppacha and heaton hai!
Ha ha.
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Mar 23, 2013 14:15:40 GMT
The school gymnasium our dojo was in had a quadrangle accessed via doors from the gym. We trained bare footed in the snow about 20 years ago doing Sochin and Hangetsu. Never done it since!!
Best Regards Allan
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2013 14:15:55 GMT
For our friends across the pond... A cup of cha means a cup of tea, especially if your from the north.
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Post by malk103 on Mar 23, 2013 14:54:57 GMT
There's some good points to come from this, good thinking! In one of the halls I train in there is an odd coloured small square which is ideal to use as a start/stop point. Snow training looks like it highlights weak areas of stance, inertia and where you are able to move/stop properly, it's fine practicing for years on a dry wooden sprung floor but what if you had to use Karate when the ground was wet or icey - would the first kick we try land us flat on our backs? Maybe we should also get padded up and go train on the local ice rink.... landing after a jump might prove interesting.
You think you have a good grasp on everything then someone mentions something that makes you sit back and think! I wonder if we should have an Ice Kata for slippery techniques?
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Mar 23, 2013 18:13:33 GMT
What that snow training session all those years ago taught me was the mechanics of inside and outside tension in our stances, lowering the hara and moving through the stance using the hips and weight transition.
Best Regards Allan
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Post by Gerry Boyce on Mar 29, 2013 12:21:22 GMT
I've never done kata in snow, but I have in wet grass with some wet leaves included - teaches me to shorten the stances and really focus on good balance, also to not be overly tense, cause if you slip you rip...
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Post by garage on Mar 30, 2013 11:30:08 GMT
where I train has a hollow which is now a sheet of ice. Wow snow is really grippy in comparison. I can get it to look like kata by keeping perpeticular to the surface and can keep my feet.
So got someone to hold a kick shield. Side thrust kick nothing as the support leg doesn't grip. Cresent Kick Mawashi easier cause you can turn the back foot easier and you can whip through the target but, you don't stay on your feet and ice hurts to land on.
Reverse cresent you draw your heel down on to their shoulder and keep your self up. So not really working then.
So the short answer in ice conditions go to a Goju, as sanchen has the answers.
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Mar 30, 2013 12:27:15 GMT
Hi Bert
Any inside tension stance works just as well as Sanchin Dachi, even outside tension stances work IF you keep your HARA/HIPS low.
Best Regards Allan
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