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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 20, 2010 21:23:39 GMT
When teaching or developing your hip rotation, what aspects do you concentrate on?
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 21, 2010 21:54:26 GMT
Hey Dod - i sincerely hope this does not sound condescending BUT - Rotation!!!
think 5 stages and EVERYTHING that entails and then - no matter what the technique you can break it down and develop it! it will show how to make Rotation the Key for a given technique. HONEST!
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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 21, 2010 22:00:12 GMT
Got you , and I don't think you were condescending
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 21, 2010 22:08:50 GMT
George - be honest Kim had to tell you what convalescing meant!
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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 21, 2010 22:10:58 GMT
HAHAHA, you're right
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 23, 2010 1:00:57 GMT
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Post by Jim Maxwell on Aug 26, 2010 0:17:51 GMT
Stop posting cryptic "5 stages" annecdotes and outline a=whet you mean Key for me regarding hip rotation is keeping the core body grounded and ensuring that the rotation is connected to increased pressure on the stance/front leg. Jim
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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 26, 2010 22:52:01 GMT
Jim, I would slightly disagree with that, and here is my reason, we are not just speaking about hip rotation for delivering a punch and if we were we should not be increasing pressure on the front leg, the back leg is bent when in hanme position, therefore when we straighten the back leg the hip moves forward into shomen through the same centre line i.e. still the same weight proportion on the front leg, the front leg should not move only the back leg and adjoining hip, the front hip is where our centre line, fulcrum or pivot point is, our stance is already rooted
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Post by shotokan101 on Aug 27, 2010 0:51:51 GMT
Jim, I would slightly disagree with that, and here is my reason, we are not just speaking about hip rotation for delivering a punch and if we were we should not be increasing pressure on the front leg, the back leg is bent when in hanme position, therefore when we straighten the back leg the hip moves forward into shomen through the same centre line i.e. still the same weight proportion on the front leg, the front leg should not move only the back leg and adjoining hip, the front hip is where our centre line, fulcrum or pivot point is, our stance is already rooted Debateable George - irrespective of technique - unless talking about Kokutsu-Dachi or Sochin-Dachi or Sanchin-Dachi or.... But of course we (I) am for the moment ignoring reverse hip rotation - e.g. blocking in Hanmi or striking in Hanmi. Perhaps this subject need splitting according to direction of movement and technique under discussion... Jim
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 27, 2010 21:47:46 GMT
Jim - you have to my knowledge NEVER posted very much other than argument and contradiction on several sites. Jim learn to let others speak - let debate evolve and thus allow you to understand things obviously outside of your limited experience. Dod's experience and knowledge is obviously greater because he does not see my comments as 'cryptic' or anecdotal. that is simply because he understands it and uses it rather than it being a past ( and thus Anecdotal) thing. if you spent less time in your little bubble and got out in the world - as you have often been invited to do so for a number of years WITH NO AVAIL - you may have grasped it - but sadly not
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Post by shotokan101 on Oct 1, 2010 20:51:30 GMT
Jim - you have to my knowledge NEVER posted very much other than argument and contradiction on several sites. Jim learn to let others speak - let debate evolve and thus allow you to understand things obviously outside of your limited experience. Dod's experience and knowledge is obviously greater because he does not see my comments as 'cryptic' or anecdotal. that is simply because he understands it and uses it rather than it being a past ( and thus Anecdotal) thing. if you spent less time in your little bubble and got out in the world - as you have often been invited to do so for a number of years WITH NO AVAIL - you may have grasped it - but sadly not LOL - just seen this - wish I'd seen it sooner - will wait till Steve's back on his feet before responding as it deserves. ... Jim
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 1, 2010 21:56:40 GMT
hey Jim - no need for me to be on my feet to deal with you - anyone can type sitting down LOL
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Post by Dod Watt on Oct 1, 2010 22:02:05 GMT
Behave you two or we'll send you both back to TSW!!
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 1, 2010 22:07:18 GMT
Phew - i thought you were gonna threaten to have that bodyguard of yours Kim (missmykarate) Shodan have words with us but message read and understood wilco moving on - here is Kagawa Sensei's instructional vid on hip rotation: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdIJVDKJ_OsNice
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Post by Dod Watt on Oct 1, 2010 22:11:24 GMT
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Post by shotokan101 on Oct 1, 2010 22:40:12 GMT
If you say so - however I'll gladly head back on over to TSW Dod... Jim
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 1, 2010 22:47:16 GMT
for goodness sake Jim - he was refering to the clip - chill a bit
what did you think of the clip and do you know of an english version of his instructional DVD?
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Post by Dod Watt on Oct 1, 2010 22:58:42 GMT
Jim you are more than welcome here, but we just want people to be nice
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Post by shotokan101 on Oct 1, 2010 23:47:06 GMT
Jim you are more than welcome here, but we just want people to be nice I appreciate that Dod - but you really should have said that to Steve earlier in this thread when he started making his unjustified and somewhat innacurate remarks about my posting habits on other sites. Bet I can find loads more posts where I've given specific advice/feedback to posters than Steve - as opposed to vague references to previously published articles in assorted karate mags. that most folk don't have access to easily/economically.... Oh and FWIW I also don't make a habit of responding to questions with "go out and find someone who can show you" - If I can contribute from personal experience (limited as it may be by some folks standards) I do and do so freely. BTW none of the above "rantings" is meant to belittle Steve's ability or experience in any way - just his ability to pass on his experience via forum postings. ...and BTW my approach to free discussion of karate matters has - so far - not resulted in my being banned from any forums.... JIm
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 2, 2010 0:04:39 GMT
LOL Jim - I am sorely tempted to respond in kind but have promised our host - so i'll simple say that you are obviously oblivious to some of the things you post and leave it at that.
I think you would find it rather incorrect to accuse me of not contributing from personal experience but heyho - if you don't like the way i post simply ignore my posts.
Oh and old skm articles/mags are available at very reasonable prices - lots of good stuff from a wide range of authors and in many ways a journal of karate over the years. I would strongly recommend people to visit the site and see what is available to add to your karate library. I definitely make no apologies for mentioning SKM or my articles - simply because they confirm that a lot of what i am saying is not a new approach on my part and has been the basis for my approach. if trying to validate what i say by refering to SKM and other mags doesn't sit well with you I am sorry but many have told me it led them to a wealth of information in SKM that they weren't aware of and they like that.
be well
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 2, 2010 23:11:32 GMT
Great video. What I like to emphasize is compression & expansion. As Dod mentioned in hamni the rear knee is bent somewhat, but also I like to focus on lowering the center of gravity ( tanden ) & to ensure that the knee stays forward. A lot of people let the knee go inward while going to hamni & then it goes outward to become straight at shomen. Most of us need to allow the knee to move a bit, however it should be forward & back not in & out. The knee going from side to side weakens it as it is a hinge joint & only designed to move in on direction, as is the elbow.. Forward foot gripping the floor, rear leg driving the center of the foot to the floor, have the energy come back up through the leg to drive the hip to shomen & connect inside thigh/groin muscles, butt cheeks should be tight at end of technique ( clenching to center ). Paul B
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 2, 2010 23:13:57 GMT
Great video. What I like to emphasize is compression & expansion. As Dod mentioned in hamni the rear knee is bent somewhat, but also I like to focus on lowering the center of gravity ( tanden ) & to ensure that the knee stays forward. A lot of people let the knee go inward while going to hamni & then it goes outward to become straight at shomen. Most of us need to allow the knee to move a bit, however it should be forward & back not in & out. The knee going from side to side weakens it as it is a hinge joint & only designed to move in on direction, as is the elbow.. Forward foot gripping the floor, rear leg driving the center of the foot to the floor, have the energy come back up through the leg to drive the hip to shomen & connect inside thigh/groin muscles, butt cheeks should be tight at end of technique ( clenching to center ). Paul B
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 2, 2010 23:15:40 GMT
Oh man, I posted twice. Be patient with me folks, I`ll figure it out yet!! Paul B
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 2, 2010 23:53:07 GMT
No Prob paul - with detailed informative posts most of us read them several times anyway
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 2, 2010 23:55:19 GMT
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 3, 2010 2:14:20 GMT
Thanks Steve! I`ll try not to challenge your title. `Yer Numpty` ;D Osu Paul B
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Post by fujicolt on Oct 3, 2010 2:51:41 GMT
MR Numpty to you Sir. I have worked hard to be so crap at this computer stuff - it aint all natural (lack of) talent you know.
I have just purchased one of these 'voice recognition' packages on EBay - but everyone is warning me that with my northwest England accent i may as well be speaking Kiswahili as it has no chance of recognising my accent. Should be interesting I can't wait for it to arrive = another mess up!
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