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Post by jimlukelkc on Jun 11, 2011 17:36:10 GMT
I run an adult and senior grade class on Wednesday evenings, separate from my usual mixed classes, and usually have around 6 students. We have been exploring all aspects of sparring from gohon kumite up to jiyu kumite ( class has been running just over 3 months) and I intend introducing more reality, non-sport based sparring. This would include one-on-one, grappling and multiple attackers. I want to make it as close to real as is safe but there is the rub! How to ensure the overall safety of my students but make it as adrenalin-fuelled as possible? Some thoughts I had were minimal padding ( hand pads only ), simulated eye gouging by tapping the forehead, groin grabs by grabbing the belt , throat attacks simulated by palming the chest. I also want to introduce the surprise element so if I gave the command to fight at any point in the lesson and they just get into it? Attacking the person nearest to you or if you find yourself without a partner just join in attacking someone.I have yet to work out the details and any suggestions would be welcome. I thought I would start off with verbal abuse and posturing and see how they cope with threat, also want to emphasise how important escaping is but not sure how to make that part of their practice. Any thoughts? I am sure lots of you include this already in your training as have I to some degree but really want to rack up the pressure this time.
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 12, 2011 20:21:22 GMT
try this Jim - very very slowly until you tell them they can go a little faster. give it time and let it develop if just gets messy =
No illegal techniques, no illegal targets, no yame other than as called by the instructor (meaning = do not disengage if at first it didn't allow continuous flow - pick it up again and fight on) Total control of all techniques!
It works very well but takes students a while to get to understand it. remind me next time I visit. Or go to a Dave Hazard Course and watch him do it = fantastic!
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Post by grunners4 on Jun 13, 2011 12:18:40 GMT
Here is something that you may have seen iainabernethy.co.uk/content/live-multiple-opponent-drills-videoLike Steve says it can get messy but you have to start somewhere...important to emphasize the fundamentals - don't focus too long on one opponent, don't get caught between opponents and make sure you keep moving.
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Post by jimlukelkc on Jun 13, 2011 13:07:39 GMT
I had not seen the Iain Abernethy drill but I am a fan of his work. Interesting stuff and similar to what we have done in the past. I dont mind messy, it is supposed to simulate a real fight, they are always messy ! Definitely take it slowly as only a couple of them have done any thing like this before. Looking forward to Wednesday now !
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 14, 2011 14:24:18 GMT
Knowing the standard of your tutelage Jim they will be fine. Keep it very slow at first and let them experiment with what works and what does not. My Senior Dan Grades have been doing it for several decades now and you wanna see them rumble! Remember TOTAL CONTROL and really bollock anyone whom does not stick to that central rule ! Good luck Mate!
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Post by jimlukelkc on Jun 16, 2011 12:49:40 GMT
Tried it Wed gone and had a great lesson, very enthusiastic and loads of fun. every one completley exhausted at end but well worth the effort. Started with them getting padded up and had three students wearing body armour and head gaurds onto 1 student. We allocated a "safe" area in the hall, the object of the exercise to hit and escape? simulted groin grabs, throat strikes and eye gouges on the understanding if any lethal strike executed that person backed off. students soon got the hang of this! then we moved on to two onto one hand pads only, anything goes! pretty soon they were grappling, gouging etc and going at it hell for leather! stopped the class for kata , going through several heians, midway through the performance of heian ni-dan I yelled Fight! and without hesitation they were straight back into it, attacking the person nearest them, great zanshin displayed ! pushed them hard but everyone responded, great lesson!
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 16, 2011 15:46:45 GMT
sounds like a great class! way to go mate!
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Post by jimlukelkc on Jun 17, 2011 12:29:58 GMT
"Way to go " Steve? really? I fear your recent inactivity has exposed you too much reality, as in USA- based reality TV lol!
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 18, 2011 3:04:26 GMT
"Way to go " Steve? really? I fear your recent inactivity has exposed you too much reality, as in USA- based reality TV lol! HA! my recent 'Inactivity' was actually far from inactive and definitely wasn't about watching telly! Was actually about researching and writing stuff for a Book and A Kata DVD that I have been asked to write the Narration for. Besides twas interesting watching you lot 'agreeing' with each other for several weeks. I had to come back twas starting to sound like the frickin Waltons! LOL! but I found a lot of valuable stuff during my research both read and viewed. Here is a gem for you all. Definitely made me feel 'What the heck have I got to moan about? I think you'll all like this - a truly inspirational guy!: Nick Vujicic
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Post by grunners4 on Jun 22, 2011 7:28:47 GMT
Interesting class last night, had 2 shodans, 2 nidans and a 6th kyu - kihon, kata and then a few bunkai drills. Finished up with 5 minutes of organised chaos, used the number system as above and went at it.
Two things popped up: 1) we might be 'dojo fit' but not necessarily fighting fit for prolonged periods of continuous action. 2) the 6th kyu took to it like a duck to water - anything goes style with a few of the earlier bunkai thrown in, while the dan grades still had a very organised / static approach and were slow to adapt. Are we that programmed into 1 on 1 kumite?
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 22, 2011 8:37:02 GMT
Depends on the Kumite formats you consistantly practice Jim but you are right - without the necessary adjustments Dan grades can be very robotic! hope yer well mate!
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