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Post by tomobrien on Oct 3, 2012 2:26:46 GMT
Having trouble doing yoko geri keage. It keeps coming out kekomi. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Tom
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 3, 2012 3:04:58 GMT
One thing that you might need to do is to train your hip Tom. Stand up with your feet straight ahead, now look to the side, raise that arm to shoulder level. Keep the feet straight ahead, but raise the leg on the side you are looking till it touches the outstretched arm, make sure that the foot stays sideways. Do at least a couple of sets of 20 each side. Now in the same position raise the knee to the outstretched arm ( tucking the foot in to the body, for chambering). Do this for a couple of sets of 20 on each side. You should feel the sides of your hips getting warm. Lastly, in the same starting position raise your chambered knee pointing to the target (arm), then raise the leg to your arm. Do not turn the foot on the floor, but push your hip towards the target. Keage is an arching action while Kekomi is more linear. I liken Keage to the `pop fly`, while Kekomi is a `line drive`. Do not bend over while attemting this kick, as height is not as important as the course. If you are not familiar with this hip movement, it will be a bit of a challenge, for someone of your vintage. Hope this helps Paul B
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Post by nathanso on Oct 3, 2012 5:25:41 GMT
Lie on your side on the floor, and do the kick slowly with a 3 count- chamber the kick by bringing the foot not much more than knee high at first, do the kick snapping back to the chamber position, and then bring the foot back down. Do this slowly enough times until you can do the snap comfortably, and then try it (slowly) in one motion. Don't worry about kicking higher or kicking from a standing position until you are satisfied that you have the trajectory that you are striving for.
While the arching kick is the standard way to do a yoko keage in Shotokan, my understanding is that some styles do it in a more straight motion ( like a shoto kekomi but without the lock) and argue that it is healthier for the joints. DSFDF.
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Post by malk103 on Oct 3, 2012 10:58:03 GMT
I would add to kick something, with Keage aim to use the side of the foot but have someone hold a pad so its angled downwards. Keep the hips square and supporting foot facing forwards. With Kekomi hold the pad upright so the foot thrusts into it, twist the hips and supporting foot slightly.
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Post by kensei on Oct 3, 2012 13:08:57 GMT
So...what you are sayingis when you try to "snap" Kick you "thrust" kick. I am not sure this is a mechanics issue more than a mental hurdle.
For my buck, do the two kicks back to back as a kihon drill. Feel the difference and work with your instructor to improve your Keage!
I have to say I have never seen someone with this issue, its normally the opposite!
Work on your kick and Urakens being like a towel snap and not a thrust punch! Be light and loose and use your hips to create the snap.
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Post by Bob Davis on Oct 3, 2012 14:27:22 GMT
FWIW try thinking of keage not so much as a side kick but as a modified front snap kick (as the knee does not hinge sideways). Just gradually open the hip further and further. Then work on turning the ankle so you use the edge of the foot (this is normally the harder part for the more mature gentleman
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Post by tomobrien on Oct 4, 2012 20:46:55 GMT
I think James is right. It's more mental (story of my life : I hardly ever use keage & I'm programed to use kekomi. Any thanks for the suggestions & I'll be working on it Thanks, Tom
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