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Post by Rob S on May 1, 2013 6:17:40 GMT
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Post by Allan Shepherd on May 1, 2013 8:14:28 GMT
Hi Rob
Superb performance.
I remember some years ago on a training and grading course with Sensei Kawasoe in Scotland when a father and daughter from here in the North West trained and graded for Nidan and Shodan respectively.
He failed but his daughter who was 7 years old passed, her kihon/kata/kumite was superb. Apparently she had studied gymnastics almost from the time she could walk so when she started karate training at 4 years old she already had control/flexibility and timing.
Again I remember whilst guest instructing at a friends club a 7 year old girl starting karate who like the above had several years of gymnastic training which was very evident, particularly in her kihon and stances. At that age she was already aware of body weight transfer from stance to stance. After a few grades she gave karate up to concentrate on her gymnastic training. During training sessions I would with the permission of her parent(s) ask her to demonstrate to the class this transfer of weight during sanbon and gohon techniques, amazing what a little bit of peer pressure has on a class of similar age children and on a few occassions the later adult class.
Best Regards Allan
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Post by garage on May 1, 2013 9:51:12 GMT
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Post by Bob Davis on May 2, 2013 11:23:50 GMT
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Post by Rob S on May 2, 2013 13:36:12 GMT
Credit to her! Amazing agility for her age! Grace comes in all guises!
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Post by tomobrien on May 3, 2013 1:59:23 GMT
Wow! I hope I can still do that at 86! Only 12 more years. Wait! I can't even do that today!
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Post by D.Ram on May 6, 2013 9:23:34 GMT
Is it just me, or are there others out there who are "feeling the years" and are still in their 30's? I had tried my hand at Karate during my schooldays, and what I could do then, I can only dream of now (a higher-than-head mawashi geri, for example, seemed easy back then, but I'm struggling to even reach above shoulder now!)
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Post by tomobrien on May 7, 2013 1:34:29 GMT
C'mon man! You are half my age. Just keep trying. The jodan mawashi geri helped me get the gold in the 'old geezer's' division @ the AAU state championships! It surprised him because he probably didn't think I could get it up, err do it www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki_nBkTsEuI
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Post by D.Ram on May 7, 2013 9:48:46 GMT
C'mon man! You are half my age. Just keep trying. Are you implying that training more often might improve the situation? I train in class twice a week (and lightly on 1-2 other days), and was afraid that training harder/more often might increase the "aches and pains"! Feels bad to be a "Karate guy" and "that chap who's limping" at the same time!
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Post by Bob Davis on May 7, 2013 10:35:35 GMT
I've always worked on the (somewhat simplistic) method that general aches and pains are a good thing but sharp or sudden pain is bad, difference between hard work and injury. As an old(ish), only 55 so just a boy by some standards , I also wouldn't swap the things I can do now for the things I could do when I was 20 (both would be nice, but I wouldn't swap)
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 7, 2013 10:49:38 GMT
Deepack you will definitely will benefit by increasing your training. Look closer at your stretching regime. Too much static stretching can be counter-productive, instead, increase your dynamic stretching and look at stabilising (strengthening )the surrounding muscles. I am, like Bob, In my early fifties and although arthritis is a problem I still train in one form or another 5-6 days a week. It is not easy staying motivated and sometimes the lure of the pub gets the better of me but I feel stronger than I ever did and definitely hit harder.
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Post by th0mas on May 7, 2013 15:04:17 GMT
Hi Deepack I find if you sweep the front leg and they go down, kicking them in the head becomes no problem at all. Also like the old's (Tom, Jim and Bob) even us younger ones struggle with our flexibility... especially when nearing 30 years of training, the old wear-and-tear does catch up and seems to be oblivious of the fact that I am only 42... Okay I could lose a few pounds, and train more often... maybe cutout the booze a bit, be more rigorous in my personal training regime, actually go to the doctor when I am nagged to, take my pills, start running again, stop using hope and indifference as a health strategy. Practice more solo kata, Not always turn up to Sundays session with a hang-over, warm up properly, strap up my hands prior to heavy bag work... take wheatgrass and wear healing crystals (maybe a pretty copper bracelet); I could start Yoga, indulge in alternative Chinese medicine, cut out the carbs and reduce the amount of fat in my diet (I love kebabs...and cheese..and cheesy kebabs), stop being skeptial about homeopathy and spend more time chilled out. Buy some whale music... even after all that I suspect the old Hamstring-Groin strain will still be there to annoy me...
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 8, 2013 6:22:30 GMT
Ha! I think you and I would get along great Tom, kebabs beer and hangovers. Can relate to all of that!
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Post by th0mas on May 8, 2013 8:24:32 GMT
Never doubted it for a moment Jim ;D
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Post by garage on May 8, 2013 9:42:05 GMT
I think training a couple of times a week allows the body to recover so hurts just as much next time. Certainly stretching is something that needs to be done everyday no bouncing.
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Post by D.Ram on May 10, 2013 6:02:23 GMT
@tom, Bob thanks for your positive push!
@jim, could you please let me know what you mean by static and dynamic stretching? All the stretching I do is classified as "Calisthenics" in Nakayama's Dynamic Karate... (going head to toe stretching various joints, a variety of ab-crunches, thigh-splits, push-ups, and then on to basic Kihon and upwards)
@thomas, brilliant point about hitting the head! :-D
@bert, didn't get your point - are you saying that permitting the body to recover is a bad thing?
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Post by garage on May 10, 2013 8:47:12 GMT
Hi Deepak
If you go at it hammer and tongs once a week and build up lactic acid and soreness a week later most of the progess you made is lost. Training weather endurance or flexibility needs to be progressive building on developments you make as you push your limits.
To make progress a minimum of 3 days a week with a day between for recovery. I find a one hour Karate session concendrating on technique without raising the core body temperature a recipe for aches and pains. If you are young your elasticity will allow you to get away with it.
I train everyday for about 2 hours which means there is no recovery and use ice and a series of herbs and spices to allow me to be ready for the next day.
So any training needs to be progressive building on what you are doing. Yes you need to recover but sometimes more of the same get you body used to what you want it to do.
Coaches that do a hard a hard session then leave for a week are stupid that is sports coaches rather that karate insturctors as I feel sports coaches with sports science should know better.
Karate instructors are stuck in the 50's and think they know better.
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Post by tomobrien on May 10, 2013 23:23:23 GMT
D.Ram - just keep going & the jodan kicks will be there. Stretching is key as has been mentioned. Good luck!
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Post by D.Ram on May 20, 2013 8:16:16 GMT
Thanks Bert, Tom! I already attend 2x 2-hour sessions each week, and try to supplement this with at least one session of my own (much shorter of course) - will improve on this!
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 20, 2013 9:44:47 GMT
Deepak sorry I missed your question earlier in the post. Dynamic stretching would be actually performing the kick but without kime so that you achieve the stretch. Or swinging the leg from the hip. This is as opposed to static stretching done slowly like box splits etc.
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