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Post by jimlukelkc on May 13, 2013 8:17:51 GMT
The rising punch in Enpi kata? Does anyone practice this as a viable technique? What would say are its applications? I have only ever seen it shown as a rising strike under the jaw but we have been using this against Thai pads as an alternative to an upper-cut and it is surprisingly powerful.
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Post by th0mas on May 13, 2013 10:06:38 GMT
Hi Jim I agree, it is surprisingly effective as a close range upper cut alternative once you have lowered your opponents head (either as a direct result of your action, or as a reactive cover-up flinch by your opponent). As I am sure the influence for your post owes something to, at least to some degree, Mr Abernethy's youtube short about Age-tsuki and the problems with a traditional uppercut technique, I thought I would include the link. What is interesting is the way the EMPI kata form has evolved in shotokan to a long range rising punch with a strange little flip of the hand afterwards. This makes us more practical-minded practitioners go through the bunkai equivalent of tortology to make sense of the preceding and following movements of the kata. I think this is a good example of how by re-adjusting our perception back to a realistic range (i.e. close) suddenly makes sense of the whole kata sequence.... At close Range the opening "downward block" is actually a set-up technique to bring your opponents head-down and maintain control (there are many ways, that I can't be bothered to go into here, where this technique can be used in this way). With your opponent bent over the age-tsuki then becomes the alternative strike to your opponents face (as per Iain's video). The little hand flip then becomes a grip on the back of your opponents head to enable you to follow up with a full body knee strike..and the empi kata makes a point of getting the kata performer to put their full weight into this (ouch...really nasty). If you opponent then still shows signs of life (and you should be worried if they are...) you drop low, grabbing his magesticals, hooking your other arm around his neck and put him on his head ( a la - one of funikoshi's 9 kata throws.. sorry the name escapes me at the moment) All of this... just by changing the fighting range..
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 13, 2013 11:51:20 GMT
I had missed the Iain Abernethy video but its gratifying to see it expressed so well. This is pretty much what we were doing too. We also utilised it as a groin strike.
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Post by kensei on May 13, 2013 13:16:28 GMT
as a shorter guy I like the punch because the taller guy does not often see it coming and also, hands fly down whent they do note it.
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 13, 2013 13:34:51 GMT
Just looked at the above video and he makes a good point about using this like an upper-cut eliminates the danger of impacting with the second knuckles so I think this warrants further practice.
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Post by th0mas on May 13, 2013 16:44:02 GMT
Totally agree about the further practice... it is a good example of where using the less common techniques, the ones not often practiced in kihon training, that provide a solution to a particular combat problem.
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Post by th0mas on May 13, 2013 16:46:13 GMT
as a shorter guy I like the punch because the taller guy does not often see it coming and also, hands fly down whent they do note it. That is an interesting observation, for me as a tall bugger the age-tsuki tends to get tangled up in my shorter training partners limbs.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 21:06:02 GMT
As ever, Iain demonstrates and explains clearly the way to do it and gives great example of practice drills.
Nice video.
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