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Post by neil on Nov 8, 2013 13:55:32 GMT
To anyone who suffers from joint and muscle pain ( over and above the usual post training soreness ) then i would recommend you google Dr Sarno. Cured me for sure. This isnt a sales pitch. I have nothing to do with the guy. His appraoch doesnt cure you, but it can alter the way you view pain. This can "cure" you. Thats what he/ his approach did for me anyway.
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Post by tomobrien1 on Nov 11, 2013 1:55:04 GMT
I was just diagnosed tendonitis in my right shoulder I am starting PT on Tuesday. Anybody have any experience with this?
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Post by garage on Nov 12, 2013 12:17:30 GMT
Do you mean Supraspinatus tendonitis (shoulder), did they take an X-ray and look for calcium crystals?. It is a bit of a general term.
I find in the rotator cuffs in the shoulder I get poping and sort of weakness, which I thought was the ball and socket joint. I have been doing the exercises for about a year. I find light resistance with more reps work better than heavy resistance with less reps which seems to make it worse.
I use arnica and whichhazel from the vets and gloucosamine. The pain is much less and usuable but it still doesn't feel as strong as it did. I have a full range of movement when checked by a doctor. I also find spine alignment can give the impression the pain is in the shoulder when it is not. I would like to get on to an ultra sound machine so I could see what is really going on.
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Post by tomobrien1 on Nov 12, 2013 20:20:04 GMT
Yes I was diagnosed with supraspinatus tendonitis. I had an x-ray taken & there is very little calcium crystals and it's not in any places where it would restrict movement. I went to physical therapy today. I had heat & light electric stimulation, did arm extensions, used a pulley, pushed a ball up a wall & had it iced. I asked the PT if I would be able to do push-ups & pull-ups again & he said he said he didn't know. Does the PT sound right? Anyone have any other ideas?
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Post by garage on Nov 13, 2013 13:05:10 GMT
Hi Tom, this means the outside shoulder muscle when you lift your arm to the side. I assume that it is only on one side. Feel the shoulder with hand looking for hollows. Compare the 2 shoulders to get an idea of how much swelling there is.
The shoulder will not settle until you have the swelling under control. The physio is just general to see what happens. They may offer nsaid drugs. (Non Steriod anti inflamatory drugs) or cortizone injection, if the calcium deposits are small they are not likely to go for the operation option.
The heat with inflamation is not always most helpful as it can make things worse. People tend to go for heat as it feels nicer.
Look at your diet as the inflamation can be connected to both versions of artritus with an over active imune system. If you get stressed like a lot of people on this forum a stress reaction can set this off.
If you are going to use heat and ice normally a 4 hour cycle of hot and cold works better. I brought one of those electrical things of E-bay for about $5 which works the muscles without loading them.
To get the inflamation under control use an anti inflamatry rub. eg ibrulieve, or what ever they have about 20% mix rubbed into the joint about every 4 hours, takes about 8 days to see if they are working. The drugs do nasty things so take them with food not on an empty stomach.
Whilst waiting for the swelling to go down do one arm press ups to work the other side. There is a research project that says you get a 20% result by working the otherside. You have probably not been using it, so you have wasting already. The electric pads can help to stop muscle wasting when it is too painful to exercise. You can also use the pads on you lower back to block the pain.
The muscles across you shoulders need to be worked. I would work the area with my fingers to try and break up the calcium about every 4 hours. If you work the mucles too hard too soon the can rip and pop that would be a hollow feel.
You can do the press ups and pull up if you go for a gradual recovery over about 12 weeks. Diet is very important if it is meaty and fatty this will not help. I have people that have tried the injections and the operations I find if you can stand the pain, the exercise probably get the best long term result. The injection wasn't too bad the operation least effective. Each person is different. PM if you want more details as I am only talking generally in case someone reads this and does something stupid and hurts themselves.
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Post by tomobrien1 on Nov 22, 2013 9:35:46 GMT
Bert, Thanks for all the info. I am going to try some of your suggestions. One of my students is a chiropractor/nutritionist. I am taking Celebrex & ligaplex 1. I am going to PT also. I have another problem now. I have a throbbing pain in my right leg that keeps me up at night, like right now As soon as I turned 65 I started falling apart It reminds me of that old joke - I went to the doctor & he said I had water on the knee. I said I want a 2nd opinion & he said ok you're ugly too Thanks again for your help.
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Post by garage on Nov 22, 2013 13:29:40 GMT
Hi Tom
I sometimes get a throbbing in my leg that feels like a mobile phone vibrating, I find taking an anacid like gaviston gets rid of this in an hour or so.
Try arnica it is gentle and will sooth the throbbing. Try iceing it, a ballet dancer I was talking to the other day does this after a performance. I have never been gutsy enough to do the ice bath, but ice pack can stop throbbing. Remember to put a layer between the skin as I have given myself frost burns before.
Siatica will also give you a pain in your leg but actually comes from nerves in your lower back. An inversion table will tackle this. A chiropractor may well have one.
The side effect of the 2 drugs you mention can cause circulation problems. There are some pressure points between the thumb and index finger which also might help ease this.
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Post by tomobrien1 on Nov 25, 2013 1:31:44 GMT
Bert,
Do you mean an antacid like galvescon? I looked up arnica & that looks good. It was also suggested to try quinine water.
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Post by garage on Nov 25, 2013 11:49:11 GMT
Yes galvescon or similar get rid of a buzzing in the legs like a mobile phone ringing. Thought I had spelt it right obviously not.
I get my arnica from the horse tack shop, as it works out cheaper than a drug store. I haven't tried quinnine water, I guess that must be the maleria drug, so I will be googling that.
I have been very impressed with the effect of arnica. Using heavy bag no gloves the brusing went to yellow from blue in 2 days. which being over half a century I was impressed by.
Hope something helps and you can sleep better.
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Post by tomobrien1 on Nov 25, 2013 22:13:07 GMT
Thanks for all the help Bert. Still gonna train tonight
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Post by tomobrien1 on Jan 18, 2014 3:58:28 GMT
My doctor told me I will need a hip replacement. I have arthritis of the right hip I said I want a second opinion. He said - OK, you're ugly too No but seriously, has anyone had a hip replacement?
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Post by garage on Jan 18, 2014 5:41:05 GMT
Hi Tom, I am really sorry to hear of your hip problem. Whilst I have been lucky enough not to have to face this myself I have to face this within my family. There are plenty of Karate people that have had this and there are plenty of people I can ask.
In the UK there seems to be 2 type steel and ceramic. The ceramic seems to be more sporty and last longer. Methods in the UK seem to lag the US some what so you may be offered something better. I do not want to put a time on how long they last as I am sure you do no want to hear.
One guy I know has had his hip and knee done. It is a very physical operation. It seems to allow him to continue with a very physical job and said he couldn't sleep because of the pain, and now he can.
Anyway very best of luck
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