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Post by kensei on Oct 28, 2014 16:10:28 GMT
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Post by garage on Nov 2, 2014 21:48:01 GMT
The new old fashion way. It not new just picked out the same old things. Monkey say monkey do. There is no real understanding.
It is a sign of madness where you repeat the same things, expecting a different outcome.
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Post by kensei on Nov 4, 2014 14:24:20 GMT
The new old fashion way. It not new just picked out the same old things. Monkey say monkey do. There is no real understanding. It is a sign of madness where you repeat the same things, expecting a different outcome. Its not new at all. The past 37 years we have had Heian Shodan as the white belt Kata, now its Taikyoku and the whole things shifts over. That is a huge move in a organization known for no change and traditionally high standards. |
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Post by Allan Shepherd on Nov 4, 2014 15:55:43 GMT
We all live in an evolving world and anything that is worth maintaining will evolve in parallel. The JKA syllabus has been changing ever so slightly for some time which has not appeared to be so evident...it is only when it is all correlated does it become so. Seems that all the people who are shouting about it are not JKA!!
Had the pleasure last Saturday to train with Sensei Tomiko Mitsuoka 8th Dan WSKF who was originally JKA then followed Sensei Kanazawa to SKIF...all the old JKA values are still there whilst aware of some new ones.
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Post by kensei on Nov 5, 2014 17:04:06 GMT
We all live in an evolving world and anything that is worth maintaining will evolve in parallel. The JKA syllabus has been changing ever so slightly for some time which has not appeared to be so evident...it is only when it is all correlated does it become so. Seems that all the people who are shouting about it are not JKA!! Had the pleasure last Saturday to train with Sensei Tomiko Mitsuoka 8th Dan WSKF who was originally JKA then followed Sensei Kanazawa to SKIF...all the old JKA values are still there whilst aware of some new ones. I want to be really clear here, I am a huge promonent of this change over, I think the changes are fantastic, however the changes are huge and sudden from an instructors point of view. I have a TONE of Kyu ranks that have to adjust the training to testing syllabus and the reality is that its a big and FANTASTIC shake up in my eyes. I personally am on board with these types of changes and will try and work them as best we can. Our Organizations head instructor is coming in May and he said that we should just maintain till he gets here to go over the changes. Very excited for this. |
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Post by Bob Davis on Nov 5, 2014 21:38:45 GMT
Hi James,
It may be a huge change IF you are in the JKA but without context it doesn't really mean much to the rest of us. No disrespct intended but it's just words on the screen as from the syllabus alone there is no way to guage the expected standard at each level. e.g, for my old group (Asano/SKI based) we would test for Takiyoku Shodan (1st 8 moves for 10th kyu) and full kata for 9th kyu, Heian Shodan for 8th, does that mean our standards were higher or that we expected more breadth and less depth of knowledge at each stage?
To my eyes the syllabus looks fairly simplistic for each level compared to what we had to go through but again, without having the grades side by side there is no way to guage the required standard relative to one another (although I would say ours always suffered from quantity over quality to a certain extent, in my eyes at least), I would also say, just as an aside, that we were always put through the Q&A on technique and history from Shodan onwards as a standard thing.
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Post by kensei on Nov 6, 2014 15:14:00 GMT
Hey Bob,
I think a lot of people are really looking FAR to deep at this. If for 37 years you followed a specific protocal and little changes to how you did the protocal were done on occasion, then you were told your protocal shifted completely...well thats my point. The standards will vary from one coach/instructor to the next as they do with all groups and you will still see some students pass who you would fail, or fail who you would pass. thats just reality! but to ask them to test using completely different testing criteria is what I am saying.
As far as a call to arms about higher standards and more focus on Kihon, thats great...but it will mean different things to different people. My focus is on now swapping out criteria...not on improved standards.
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