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Post by stevie on Aug 20, 2010 21:48:37 GMT
my favorite is tekki shodan because its a strong powerful kata and those of you who i have trained with know ime not the most graceful person in the world.
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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 20, 2010 22:10:16 GMT
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 21, 2010 23:17:08 GMT
Hey Stevie - I worked the doors for a very long time and Guys i really relied upon could rarely be described as Graceful - until it kicked Off then they became Proficient - Thank Goodness!
Favourite Kata - for me it tends to change depending on what i am trying to study BUT have gotta say have always had a soft spot for Heain Nidan - so simple until you really start to get to know/understand it and then PHEW! Then you realise YOU DO NOT KNOW IT! as with many others me thinks!
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Post by jimlukelkc on Aug 22, 2010 19:31:47 GMT
My favourite heian Kata is Yon-dan, I think learning this originally was the first time I questioned the whole "block-kick-punch" explanations of bunkai and more advanced kata changes from time to time, I have favoured hangetsu, sochin and bassai sho in the past.
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Post by Dod Watt on Aug 22, 2010 19:40:24 GMT
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Post by liamwatt on Aug 22, 2010 20:53:59 GMT
My latest kata heian yon-dan is my fav so far, as it seems more diverse in my opinion than my previous katas, hopefully as time goes on my favourite kata will change the more i learn new ones .
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Post by Bob Davis on Aug 22, 2010 21:12:47 GMT
I'm not an elegant kata performer and my opinion may vary from time to time but inevitably I always come back to tekki shodan for no better reason than I just like the way it feels, it's a great kata for making you feel powerful, if I get to the end of a session but just have time for one more kata tekki shodan will always leave me ending on a high. I can give it one last go and that's enough to empty the tank.
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 23, 2010 0:53:23 GMT
I'm not an elegant kata performer and my opinion may vary from time to time but inevitably I always come back to tekki shodan for no better reason than I just like the way it feels, it's a great kata for making you feel powerful, if I get to the end of a session but just have time for one more kata tekki shodan will always leave me ending on a high. I can give it one last go and that's enough to empty the tank. Bob - that is very interesting as i know how tall and long limbed you are. most taller students - in my experience - favour the larger movement, more flowing Kata. it would be very enlightening if you could explain why you get such a feeling from Tekki Shodan - although i must admit Sensei Kanazawa is long limbed and to see him perform Tekki Shodan is IMHO beautiful to watch. So i am not suggesting taller people do not perform it well - i assure you.
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Post by Bob Davis on Aug 23, 2010 9:39:18 GMT
Not easy to put a feeling into words that make logical sense. I've not taken a step back and analyzed it for a while so I'll make that my task for tomorrow nights session and try and break it down (if only so I can understand it myself now) and come back with a more complete answer. The quick, short (and not particularly thought through answer is that I like the routed feeling and the perceived (which I know isn't always the same as actual) feeling of being able to generate a large amount of power with the twisting motion of the body and the small sharp movements of the hips.
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Post by fujicolt on Aug 23, 2010 18:34:20 GMT
Trust me on this Bob YOU are exactly on the right lines. The Late Steve Cattle when doing the Tekki Kata would literally make my Dojo floor shake as he 'rooted' as he employed the Kata Techniques - marvellous. enjoy your analysis! and please help us all by reporting back. I can see an interesting article from you here
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 3, 2010 16:16:49 GMT
Sochin!! It is strong it is rooted, it has slow it has fast. You don`t have to jump. It has balance & recovery. Most importantly for me, my knees always feel better after doing this kata. I can uderstand why Kase sensei liked fudo dachi. I love using the heians for warmup. Going to the tekkis at medium speed, then the sentes at full speed, do sochin, then cool down with hangetsu. About the sentes, sometimes my knees won`t allow empi at full speed. Kind of why gankaku is not on my list of favorites. Osu Paul B
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Post by kickchick on Oct 15, 2010 8:00:04 GMT
I'm no expert and there are many more katas that I need to learn and go through the ones I 'know' a million more times, but up to now my favourite is heian nidan. I love the fact that each 'line' of moves is different from another and the sort-of broken rhythm. I'm not sure whether I can explain it... It just feels great!
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Post by Paul Bedard on Oct 18, 2010 2:37:51 GMT
Heian nidan is a very nice kata Anna & has a lot in it. I`m sure that most of us still really enjoy the feeling of this kata. Osu Paul B
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Post by genkaimade on Oct 18, 2010 12:46:46 GMT
Oh sweet mercy how I detest heian nidan I hate the fact that it is so far beyond me - I could practice nothing but it for a year and still not even be close to knowing anything about it...
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Post by Bob Davis on Oct 18, 2010 17:57:16 GMT
Hi Alex, You and probably 90% of the rest of the people who "study" it. Now is the time (well done on the 3rd kyu by the way ) to start to actually study a kata rather than the "performance" of a kata take a step back and actually start to think about the possibilities of what the kata is doing, this doesn't just happen by magic after years of training (despite what some are told) but requires developing the sort of mind that looks for the "implications" as Steve likes to put it, Heian Nidan is as good a place as any, particularly if you "hate" it (hint, change the range, don't think of it as a long range kata). This is very much an itterative process as you come up with stuff, try it with a partner, discard some things, modify others and, in some cases go back to square one and start again. There are no right or wrong answers (alright there are SOME wrong answers ) but this is the stuff that makes karate a life long study rather than an exercise in ticking boxes and as your mindset turns to looking at kata this way you'll be surprised how much easier it becomes. My only other advice at this stage would be to test everything and don't be too fond of pet techniques just because you came up with them yourself, if they work great but they can be difficult to let go of when somebody points out the obvious flaws (been there, done that ) Cheers
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Post by genkaimade on Oct 18, 2010 18:55:50 GMT
Hi Alex, You and probably 90% of the rest of the people who "study" it. Now is the time (well done on the 3rd kyu by the way ) to start to actually study a kata rather than the "performance" of a kata take a step back and actually start to think about the possibilities of what the kata is doing, this doesn't just happen by magic after years of training (despite what some are told) but requires developing the sort of mind that looks for the "implications" as Steve likes to put it, Heian Nidan is as good a place as any, particularly if you "hate" it (hint, change the range, don't think of it as a long range kata). This is very much an itterative process as you come up with stuff, try it with a partner, discard some things, modify others and, in some cases go back to square one and start again. There are no right or wrong answers (alright there are SOME wrong answers ) but this is the stuff that makes karate a life long study rather than an exercise in ticking boxes and as your mindset turns to looking at kata this way you'll be surprised how much easier it becomes. My only other advice at this stage would be to test everything and don't be too fond of pet techniques just because you came up with them yourself, if they work great but they can be difficult to let go of when somebody points out the obvious flaws (been there, done that ) Cheers Provided it doesn't rain tomorrow, my training chez moi will be spent studying Heian Nidan methinks Alex
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Post by Bob Davis on Oct 18, 2010 19:08:48 GMT
Good man!
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Post by andyupton on Dec 28, 2010 19:41:25 GMT
My favourite Kata is Nijushiho. When I first learnt this kata, I was a reasonably good kicker. I was very impresed that this kata has two Yoko Geri Kekomi ! And so it became "MY" Kata ! Now, in my club, it is sometimes referred to as "Andy's Kata" !! ;D
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Post by darragh on Dec 28, 2010 22:48:48 GMT
heian yondan, kanku dai, empi, heian godan... for various reasons.... depends on my mood and how im feelin physically... i love giving yondan EVERYTHING......Empi is beautifull to do if i wanna loosen up.... then do it later at full speed.... i just love kata.... like sum1 said on here it does vary from time to time...
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Post by kensei on Dec 29, 2010 14:40:30 GMT
I like Nijushiho for the hip movement. I watched Asai Sensei do it once and was hooked! It is also my instructors favorite Kata and I very much like it because of that...however I also Like Bassai Shoand Kanku Dai! Both because of the body dynamics and feel of the Kata.
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Post by guyakuzuki on Dec 29, 2010 15:01:07 GMT
bassai dai.Even during my kyokushin period I kept on practicing this kata.It 's a more powerful kata and I'm not the most elegant bloke on the block.I loved this kata from day one.
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Post by fujicolt on Dec 29, 2010 20:06:44 GMT
Hi Alex, You and probably 90% of the rest of the people who "study" it. Now is the time (well done on the 3rd kyu by the way ) to start to actually study a kata rather than the "performance" of a kata take a step back and actually start to think about the possibilities of what the kata is doing, this doesn't just happen by magic after years of training (despite what some are told) but requires developing the sort of mind that looks for the "implications" as Steve likes to put it, Heian Nidan is as good a place as any, particularly if you "hate" it (hint, change the range, don't think of it as a long range kata). This is very much an itterative process as you come up with stuff, try it with a partner, discard some things, modify others and, in some cases go back to square one and start again. There are no right or wrong answers (alright there are SOME wrong answers ) but this is the stuff that makes karate a life long study rather than an exercise in ticking boxes and as your mindset turns to looking at kata this way you'll be surprised how much easier it becomes. My only other advice at this stage would be to test everything and don't be too fond of pet techniques just because you came up with them yourself, if they work great but they can be difficult to let go of when somebody points out the obvious flaws (been there, done that ) Cheers ti s what i love about this forum - what a brilliant peace of advice to a young student and food for thought for us all - Nice one Bob!
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Post by superjock on Jan 31, 2011 2:11:57 GMT
Seiyuchin was the very first Gojuryu kata taught to me by Sheila Cook..............Bassaidai is always in there........Seipai, Sanseiryu, Tensho, Sanchin and Nijushiho is what I'm looking at now. In addition to teaching Gekkisaidai Ichi-ni, saifa and seiyunchin. Favourite? Hell I don't know!! When you get it down to application they are all the bloody same anyway.
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Post by Paul Bedard on Feb 1, 2011 5:25:10 GMT
I like Kanku Sho also Bert, end up laughing sometimes during the big jump near the end. It`s quite the effort for this old body, but sometimes I can even sort of pull it off. Sort of!!! Really like the challenge of this kata though.. Osu Paul B
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Post by fleur on Feb 1, 2011 8:31:29 GMT
Kakuyoku nidan, because it's just been taught to me, has a lovely feel to it and someone put the time and energy into actually teaching it to me.
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Post by kensei on Feb 1, 2011 15:17:55 GMT
I used to think it was nuts for Asai sensei to create 65 new kata for his Shotokan organization, I really thought...WHo could learn all these! But I was told that he often created Kata for specific issues that he saw and would teach them to only specific people. He had a core grouping of Kata that reprosented his style and the rest were all about fixing issues...like assigning a drill. So in essence he created 10 New Kata (guessing here people) and the rest were drills to help his students. he did not hide this as he even named a few so simply that you get the point "Zenkutsu dachi no kata" for instance. Any ideas?
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Post by fujicolt on Feb 1, 2011 18:36:41 GMT
haven't you noticed - you have a chance to ask Yokota sensei! he'll know
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