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Post by genkaimade on Jul 6, 2011 16:19:47 GMT
Hey everyone, you might have noticed me mention in one of my posts that I was going to ask a friend of mine to teach me Sanchin... Well, after 3 hours of training, I now know the movements, stance, and breathing (to an extent of course ). It does indeed seem to be a very nice kata! Now just to practice it so that I become proficient What to devote more time to though; Sanchin, or Bassai Dai... Alex
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Post by fujicolt on Jul 6, 2011 17:02:51 GMT
At your currwent level I would suggest Bassai Dai Alex - Sanchin can be there for later study after your Shotokan Shodan is achieved!
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Post by genkaimade on Jul 6, 2011 21:47:33 GMT
Mm, I had exactly the same thought! It's odd to think though - had I turned up for the last year's worth of gradings (they all happened to be just before I had exams :/), I would be taking Shodan in not too long! But my Bassai Dai isn't crisp enough regardless, so it will become a priority! It's just a pain that it takes up so much flaming floor space :/
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Post by fujicolt on Jul 6, 2011 21:59:23 GMT
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Post by kensei on Jul 7, 2011 16:26:01 GMT
Alex, I learned a long time ago that Karate is a marathon not a sprint....those that treat it like " I need to know it all...now" tend to burn out.
Sanchin and many others are fun to train with but in Karate...more is not always better!
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Post by Bob Davis on Jul 7, 2011 17:06:19 GMT
As has already been said you can break it down into sections to work it BUT just in case it's any help, with some very minor changes in footwork based around the shuto ukes (i.e. change on the spot rather than step) I've just managed to do a passable Bassai Dai on my living room rug, so within an area of 6' x 4'. There's always a way
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Post by jimlukelkc on Jul 8, 2011 8:09:17 GMT
Crisp is great in context Alex but consider as stated above , training it in sections. I would also add, if you can, train that section as a solo exercise then the applications/implications with a partner. This will lead to a deeper understanding of the kata. Much more important imo than a polished performance ( both would be great of course ).
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Post by kensei on Jul 8, 2011 14:13:15 GMT
I also like to say that often its not the Kihon Waza that is lacking in the Kata but the "Spirit" or Intent of the actual person doing the Kata. Review your intent for each movement...pause alot while practicing and ask yourself what you are doing with each movement, visualize the intent and then move as though you have a partner.
Bassai Dai is a power full and destructive Kata, each move should be done as though you are in a battle for your life. To often ones "fighting" Katas look like their "Text book" Katas, the Heians are for learning different Waza and movement types, the higher Katas are for practicing fighting.
Thats my take anyways! Your Bassai Dai should have the proper feel to it, the snap and focus should come once you reset your intent!
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Post by genkaimade on Jul 8, 2011 21:26:47 GMT
Thanks for the advice everyone! After what happened in tonight's training though, I think I'm going to be laying off the more advance kata for a little, and spending some time with my heians :/
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Post by superjock on Jul 9, 2011 8:17:37 GMT
Yip, it's a journey.........two steps forward and.....................
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Post by Bob Davis on Jul 9, 2011 8:48:02 GMT
as I have found recently, taking 9 steps back now to (hopefully) take 10 forward. Sometimes it just has to be done.
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Post by fujicolt on Jul 9, 2011 16:13:25 GMT
I also like to say that often its not the Kihon Waza that is lacking in the Kata but the "Spirit" or Intent of the actual person doing the Kata. Review your intent for each movement...pause alot while practicing and ask yourself what you are doing with each movement, visualize the intent and then move as though you have a partner. Bassai Dai is a power full and destructive Kata, each move should be done as though you are in a battle for your life. To often ones "fighting" Katas look like their "Text book" Katas, the Heians are for learning different Waza and movement types, the higher Katas are for practicing fighting. This is very sound advice for you Alix Young Man - however you have trained at the friendship Course Classes often enough to KNOW the 'never fail' mindset to adopt. For the benefit of others though please keep your eye on the Articles Section of this fine Forum and I will post a tutorial for you all very soon. Thats my take anyways! Your Bassai Dai should have the proper feel to it, the snap and focus should come once you reset your intent!
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Post by nathanso on Jul 9, 2011 19:38:38 GMT
As a teacher, I think that there is nothing better for a student to be so interested in a specific area or subject that they want to learn about it on their own even if it is not required for their particular curriculum. I certainly think that karate kata are no different. Just as you should not neglect the specific requirements of any course of study, you should be assiduously working on your testing syllabus (assuming that you want to test in a timely manner). However, assuming that you spend enough time on the floor, I would personally encourage you to learn and practice any kata that you want, no matter how "advanced" it supposedly is.
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Post by tomobrien on Jul 10, 2011 2:51:27 GMT
These are my favorite kata. Both are very different & used for different reasons. Too much to into here. Enjoy them both IMHO.
Thanks, Tom
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