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Post by malk103 on Feb 28, 2012 19:41:40 GMT
14 video's that offer a fairly good opinion on Bunkai, slightly more realistic than some of the offerings on youtube as a lot of his stuff is close range. www.youtube.com/user/karatascosaintemarg#g/uThey are good in my opinion as a limited experienced Karateka - it would be interesting to hear what you more experienced people think of them?
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Post by fujicolt on Feb 29, 2012 22:25:55 GMT
Hey Mal - once you set the following paradigm in relation to the 'application' of Kata movements you will find that all and any offerings are of value because they will either be nonsense (and as you become more experienced you will come to know why) or they have a usefulness that is worth exploring. The required Paradigm shift is: 'Understand and accept that there are NO Kata 'APPLICATIONS'! despite some very detailed and well administered research we must now all accept that the Masters of old whom devised the original Kata (that have evolved since into the versions currently used) DID NOT record the intended 'Applications' of the Kata movements. Therefore NOBODY can say 'This is THE application of XXYY Kata'. Therefore, we must look at what the Kata movements may be implying they could be used for and this in fact opens up huge opportunities in the study of Kata as a fighting - rather than aesthetic/exercise - process. therefore, we can state 'these are the 'Implications' of the possible usage of the moves in XXYY Kata' and in doing so can devise several different Kata 'implications' from the same Kata movements. This can be a very enjoyable and deeply informative process of study and thereafter practice because it is not limited to any boundaries. I strongly reccomend that you not only seek out any and every Kata usage as a fighting system you can but also add your own. Being a relative low grade doesn't limit you - in fact you may well see 'implications' that are not restricted by years of training and thus are very open minded - I hope you understand what I mean there Also - great Job posting your discovery of this set for us all to peruse. We all can learn by this sharing of info = Thanks!
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Post by malk103 on Mar 1, 2012 0:08:41 GMT
Thank you Steve - and yes I am beginning to understand the Kata more, but probably have only just scratched the surface... For some of the moves within Heian Kata that used to puzzle me I am now piecing together an application or two that are more "involved" than the standard block or strike, but i'm also learning that the list of potential applications are vast. Its even more intriguing when different applications can overlap - ie, moves 4,5 & 6 could be one application, but when another application is used against 5, 6 & 7 then number 5 could be totally different but still look the same.... if you see what I mean Anyway, the quest goes on...
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Post by fujicolt on Mar 1, 2012 2:44:16 GMT
I would suggest that very rarely are single moves intended to be the implied application. Hence the reason why the Kata all have their own sections, timing and rythm to allow movements to synergise to create a desired result. Great fun to explore innit!? Enjoy
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Post by ruestir on Mar 1, 2012 13:12:39 GMT
I've seen these before and there are some good things you can take away from them. However, they do seem to rely a bit too much on "karate" style attacks for their applications to work.
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Post by malk103 on Mar 1, 2012 14:09:08 GMT
Good point - when I did a Bunkai course recently he based most attacks on the "Saturday night" swinging punch or the grab of your clothes at chest/throat area.
It would be nice to have a single reference point for Kata Bunkai but suspect it would be too heavy to pick up and read....
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Post by ruestir on Mar 1, 2012 18:58:12 GMT
Bunkai for me isn't so much about the techniques in each kata, but what is the over-riding principal(s) that seems to be prevalent. For instance, the Heian kata seem to demonstrate a principal of entering, disrupting and controlling. How you interpret the techniques as they are presented to fit the over-riding theme is almost inconsequential. As long as the style(kata) is not cast aside then the bunkai is correct, but that's just my take on it.
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