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Post by rodders on May 7, 2012 11:18:05 GMT
Hi All, I have been watching some interesting videos on YouTube and wondering if anyone had seen the Karate episode of Fight Quest? See here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iO3SFEdV8I&feature=youtube_gdata_playerThe Japanese use some harsh training techniques don't they. Amazing! Please share any cool videos you have spotted on YouTube! OSS Rodders
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Post by robbo78 on May 7, 2012 13:58:19 GMT
Hi and welcome to OSS, yes I have seen this video and a few others like it just goes to show how easy we have got it here in the U.K I am sure there are a few clubs in England who do train like this (what I call hardcore) traditional Karate. I would personally like to train like this to get the most out of it all, it obviously trains more than the physical side!?
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Post by andyupton on May 7, 2012 18:33:41 GMT
Have you noticed that it is always Goju Ryu or Kyokushinkai ? It's NEVER Shotokan
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Post by kensei on May 8, 2012 12:07:18 GMT
I have seen vids like this and while we all think "Damn I would love to be able to do this" I can tell you that you DONT! The damage that they do to the human body is often never undone! I have spoken to broken down Kyokushin guys that trained hard for four years or so and won tournments and now can hardly walk, have vision problems and one that has a hand that he basically can not use. Note that the human body can heal up after alot of damage and hard training is good for the body, but going Ape Crap crazy on a few things and doing stupid training is a sure fire way to end your Karate training for GOOD. If you like to train hard, do so, but keep in mind that a line does exist that when crossed creates more damage than good. We as Shotokan adults should realize that training should be good for the body and not something to show off with. Its great when you are young to the sport aspect of Karate and train to stupidity to turn around and say "hey look what I did" but I want to be the old man strapping on his belt saying "hey look what I CAN still do".....wait...I am that old man
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Post by malk103 on May 8, 2012 13:45:04 GMT
I get the point about having no fear left of being hit because you are already being hit... but, I train so that I can hopefully avoid being hit. I accept a few knocks in training but not a beating.
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Post by makoto on May 8, 2012 14:39:02 GMT
It is mostly show for the cameras. I do not think many dojo here in Japan train like this all the time. Yes, sometimes dojo will do crazy things and hard trainings, but for the most part not on a regular basis.
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Post by Bob Davis on May 8, 2012 22:02:39 GMT
Use to see a similar thing when running kayak courses, people get so hung up on fear of falling in that they'll never comit themselves to the techniques that will actually save them and so subsequently will always end up getting wet (sometimes in a bad way) so we always start with capsize drills, everybody gets wet up front (but in a controled way), nobody dies so everyone is a lot less fearful and learn to commit. Likewise with karate, you can (these days) get so far without ever getting hit that the fear never goes away and when push comes to shove, lack of commitment to technique will get you hurt. I'm not in favour of either giving (or taking ) a beating but I do make sure that my students get used to impact from very early on, usually from behind a pad or shield initially but they need to understand what they are getting into. However, the human body can only take so much punishment, I have a friend who used to train Goju when he was young but was also a rugby prop foward, he tried to come back to training with me but already at the age of 33 his body is so broken that even basic karate training is beyond him. I know how far down hill I've gone since I was 33 so I wouldn't want to be starting from where he already is
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Post by th0mas on May 11, 2012 7:50:00 GMT
Use to see a similar thing when running kayak courses.. Wow! i didn't think they made canoes big enough?
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Post by Bob Davis on May 11, 2012 8:23:18 GMT
Neither did I when I was in one
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