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Post by malk103 on May 28, 2012 21:28:18 GMT
6 smiling faces after tonights session, we did the 3 K's with regular intervals of beating the cr@p out of the punchbag to help to apply the correct technique.
It was surprising to see that some of the bigger ones were out-punched by a smaller one as he had got his technique/hips better, but they all ended up better for it.
I purposely re-filled my 5' bag with loose dustsheets so that the juniors could whack it without hurting themselves.
I would recommend regular bag bashing to anyone - gives the missus a break too.... ;D
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Post by fujicolt on May 28, 2012 22:41:31 GMT
FROM WHACKING YOU? I image the Bag doesn't chat back at her! You asked for that Mal or be branded a Wife Beater    ;D Hitting things is the biggest 'not there' in many Dojo's - sadly! |
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Post by malk103 on May 29, 2012 6:13:06 GMT
It should be compulsory - punchbags that is, not wife beating.... ;D I remember when I first started Karate and would get home to demonstrate a new move/technique - it didn't take her long to tell me where to go!  I thing I noticed was how some went into big hooking punches instead of in a straight line from the hip? |
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Post by jimlukelkc on May 29, 2012 8:29:33 GMT
Pad work, bag work,makiwara, speedball bring it on!
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Post by Bob Davis on May 29, 2012 8:38:27 GMT
Having just sat through "300" again the other night I was reminded of the following: "Fear for your women!"...... "You clearly haven't met our women"  |
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Post by barryives on May 29, 2012 14:11:56 GMT
Over a total training time of about 8 years I could count on one hand the number of times I hit a pad in a lesson. When I started Kick Boxing I hit a pad on my first lesson. Go figure!
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Post by Bob Davis on May 29, 2012 18:17:39 GMT
My lot also start hitting things from lesson 1. (Normally me until I've guaged that their technique is sound enough not to hurt themselves on the pads) We don't spend vast amounts of time on it but we'll typically do around 10 minutes of pad work at the end of most sessions (this tends to tail off for 3-4 weeks before a grading as the focus is all syllabus at that point  ) |
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Post by malk103 on May 29, 2012 20:52:04 GMT
I wrote a really long and good reply and then we had a power cut and I lost it.....  I used to hit at the wrong angle with my left hand and it wasn't noticed until I started doing bag work, I realised that I would hit sometimes with my small finger knuckle more which hurt. Using a bag has learnt me to hit straight. I can imagine getting to Black belt and not realising this, the first time I would have to hit someone with avengance I would probably hurt myself more - obviously being a good attitude Karateka I would avoid the trouble.... ;D Pads, rubber knives, sticks and foam bats should all be part of it IMHO I'm going to post quick before we get another power cut! |
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Post by kensei on May 29, 2012 21:38:38 GMT
Typically in most Dojo the idea of actually hitting something is frowned upon. I recal a visiting instructor in awe of the fact that our old club had a hanging bag, makiwara and a vast number of sheilds and striking pads.....he actually said "wow, does someone teach kick boxing here as well". We kind of down played it till he left and then all asked if he was for real!
Granted today we normally do less of the bag and pad work, but it is still in the normal curriculum of most of our clubs.
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Post by Bob Davis on May 29, 2012 21:40:18 GMT
It's exactly what my Orange belt said a few weeks back "you learn very quickly if your not hitting right because it hurts" (he adapted very quickly but at least he had the chance to find out).
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Post by elmar on May 29, 2012 23:34:21 GMT
There were classically 3 K's - kihon, kata and kumite, all of which never involved actually hitting someone/something. There should imho be a fourth K - "kontact" (OK, so the spelling is a bit Germanic - sue me ). May be a 5th one as well - Konditioning? |
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Post by fleur on May 30, 2012 4:18:49 GMT
And a 6th - kobudo.
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Post by th0mas on May 30, 2012 20:21:00 GMT
I have always wondered what it would be like to hit those mannequin torso punching bags... I have been tempted many times in Alders in Croydon, but knowing my luck would end up smashing it through the other expensive exercise equipment on display.... Do any of you use those in your regular training and are they anything like hitting a real person...something I have more experience with |
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Post by malk103 on May 30, 2012 21:54:34 GMT
We've used one before - where you have to fill up the base with water but sometimes still have to have a person support it from behind.
They are okay but have a fairly consistant "resistance", as I have youngsters in my classes then I have re-filled my punchbag with looser material so nobody breaks their hands on it, but you can still give it a good whack if you want.
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