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Post by malk103 on Jun 14, 2012 10:52:47 GMT
I heard about a 3 hour course at the last minute down in Devon (UK) and managed to secure a place. It was based on grappling techniques and was presented by Patrick McCarthy at the Karate Academy in Newton Abbot, hosted by John Burke who is an excellent source of Bunkai video clips on Youtube and books.
My arms still ache from all of the arm locks we practiced but it was a very good eye opening experience providing an excellent link between habitual acts of violence, SD at close range and Kata. There were plenty of penny dropping moments when a flow drill mirrored a few steps from Kata, I doubt if I will ever look at a long range Kata attack/defence sequence the same way again. Has anyone else looked at his work?
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Post by fleur on Jun 14, 2012 22:01:53 GMT
Lucky you, a chance to train with Patrick McCarthy - awesome!
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Post by fujicolt on Jun 14, 2012 23:54:50 GMT
WAY TO GO MAL! That course - whether you realise it or not yet - could/should be the key for you to seperate... Shotokan Karate - the grading syllabus from Shotokan Karate - the Martial Art The secret is in the distance you envisage it is applied from/within. Trust me - you can find very good instruction on 'making Shotokan Karate work' but you also are exactly on track by looking elsewhere as well for those 'we do that' moments as you view other systems etc. Trust me - I have been there often and it is great. Kudos to you for spotting the course and diving in there. Many wouldn't have! As for Patrick - he has forgotten more than many know but I have heard people (some well known Karateka) state - 'OH! he is just a writer - doesn't really know what he talks of!' BUT you have been there, done that and KNOW the reality. How about a nice little COURSE REPORT for this forum? PLEASE
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Post by malk103 on Jun 15, 2012 8:20:16 GMT
At the moment I am of the mindset that the basic long distance Kata/Kumite applications have a place in teaching beginners but the way he described his findings from many years of research makes far more sense. He is not just a writer, he has won many trophies in competition before he started his quest on backward engineering Karate and has travelled and trained with most top Karateka around the globe.
This is what I understand in my poorly written inglish....
Tegumi are close range 2 man drills mostly involving grappling, arm locks and close attacks, they are based on the Habitual acts of physical violence that have always been a constant and in defending against them. These were the original set of drills that were put into routines that became Kata.
The host Sensei has long since been exploring Bunkai and the two of them put on a bit of a double act as they were demonstrating the Tegumi and exactly mirroring sequences from many Kata, most in the room were whispering/nodding to the person next to them "that's from xxxx Kata". They have received a lot of criticism saying that's not the way we do it or my Sensei told me differently....
For me it enforces the ideal of questioning everything and keeping an open mind, it saddens me that hundreds of people have probably given up Karate before getting half way to Shodan, they thought they were entering a Martial Art to learn self defense but all they did was march up and down punching/blocking and doing funny dance routines that made no sense or were never explained to them.
I am currently covering for my Sensei and teaching 4 times a week, last nights lesson started off with some combinations, a few Kata but then we spent the rest of the lesson on Kumite and advanced Bunkai - they said it was a really good lesson.
If anyone gets the opportunity to experience anything from Hanshi McCarthy then go for it!
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Post by jimlukelkc on Jun 15, 2012 9:00:08 GMT
We need more of this! Patrick McCarthy is one of several instructors you can go to for training in this aspect of karate and everyone of them are worth a look. I personally do not understand why we would teach kata without its implications but the more people who seek out this knowledge the quicker we can change things.
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Post by th0mas on Jun 19, 2012 12:51:05 GMT
My brother went to Patricks recient course in London. He really enjoyed it...and it was a massive eye opener for him, he trains in Shotokai...
Anyway I roughed him up a bit for not getting me an invite the b*gg*r.
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Post by Paul Bedard on Jun 19, 2012 19:21:20 GMT
Good to see that Mal is grabbing every opportunity he can to gain experience. Your club can only prosper from your desire to learn Mal good for you. I have never physically met Patrick McCarthy however he did me a good turn in 1986 when he was running Vancouver Karate Centre when I was seeking qualified Shotokan Instructors & he helped me (over the telephone) find the org that I still train with today. I am forever in his debt & have upmost respect for him. There are those that don`t agree with all that he has done, but hey so be it, you can`t impress everyone. He is a very approachable man, as Steve H can attest to, I`m sure that he remembers my communication with PM awhile back on another site. Thanks for all the info Mal, it has confirmed to me that if he ever comes back to Vancouver I`ll try to get down there to take in his course. Osu Paul B
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