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Post by makoto on Jun 28, 2012 11:49:27 GMT
Yoshimi Inoue
Hidetaka Nishiyama
Very interesting. I'd like to think I do Nishiyama karate. I can tell you, that I do not find that my technique is slower, or more tiring like Inoue says. Also, I agree that stomping is not good. However, if you move your body fast enough when stepping, there will be an audible noise when your foot makes contact with the floor.
Just would like to say, both ideas on technique are valid. The problem I see in the Inoue video is that the young man in the video does not fully focus his technique, and that is why he is able to be pushed off balance. But, of course, locking up like a statue is not correct either.
Anyone else have an opinion?
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Post by hamhead on Jun 28, 2012 12:25:11 GMT
Actually John, I posted the original link just to illustrate what I meant about breathing. It wasn't supposed to be more than that but I would say I try to follow a similar way these days. To be honest since I changed my breathing I have found that I have a lot more steam left. I don't finish kata panting or gasping for air anymore or tire as much in kumite. I feel much "karate fitter" than when I was much younger.
I came across Inoue Yoshimi by accident through two sources. One was the head of our prefectural karate rijikai, who was helping me with my technique. I didn't know at the time that he was a personal student of Inoue's father and follows the son Yoshimi too. He gave me some really good advice a few years ago and I adopted some of his advice. the source which led me to the video's was Jesse (who is a good customer of ours).
I also came across Inoue's methodology again recentlywhen Training with Nakayama Mie and Usami Risa on a course. They were/ are his students As you probably know he was the National coach for Japan's kata team for years and taught them all when they completely dominated kata. (some people have commented on how Japan's kata went down hill when he retired and was replaced but now he coaches the top competitors in his dojo) Though he is retired he teaches the current world champion Antonio Diaz, "the young man" in the clip you mentioned. He is probably the most respected coach in Japan I found out.
Actually John, I disagree that Antonio is not focussing, but I think he is tensing up on focus on purpose to exaggerate the disadvantage of the hah- stomp technique. Hey if you are trying to demonstrate your teacher's point you're not going to do something to contradict it or show him up.
(I remember making the mistake once when my instructor told me to attack him faster and as fast as I could, I did and I clocked him.... and them I paid for it dearly! I learnt what the optimal speed was for demonstrations then!)
Regarding Nishyama Vs Inoue actually I think they have sometmes make similar points but also have differences but hey it is two very different styles (Inoueha Shito-Ryu Vs Nishiyama Shotokan)
Personally, I take advice from senior instructors of different styles who offer to help, if I think the advice is sound and in line with my aims, I practice it and see how it feels and what effect it has on my karate. As I mentioned, a Shitoryu instructor really helped me, a gojyu ryu instructor has really helped me, Sakumoto sensei of Ryueiryu really gave good advice, and of course many shotokan instructors too.
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Post by makoto on Jun 28, 2012 12:48:45 GMT
Do not get me wrong. No attack Hamid against you. I just thought the video you posted contradicted what I came to believe in karate. Yet, Inoue did show some very valid points. Anyways, I just thought it was interesting and worth making it a thread. But, I agree, get good ideas where ever you can get them. Anyways, I have no real deep complaints against the video clip. Thanks for posting it.
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Post by hamhead on Jun 28, 2012 12:53:35 GMT
No problems John, I didn't take it as any kind of attack at all, and sorry if my tone seemed defensive to make you think that I had. I think it was a good post by you and a good thought provoker / exposer to other ideas.
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