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Post by ruestir on Aug 8, 2012 19:24:19 GMT
Can't watch TKD sparring. It makes me sad.
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Post by Bob Davis on Aug 8, 2012 20:22:06 GMT
I sat through 2 bouts, (didn't feel entitled to an opinion otherwise  ), gave up, "Countdown" was more exciting. I'm sure they work hard to get there and are very athletic but the rules seem daft to me and "martial" it ain't, not to my taste I'm afraid. |
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Post by malk103 on Aug 8, 2012 21:32:33 GMT
I'm no expert but anyone trying to "defend" themselves by standing with their leading leg up high waiting for the best time to launch a high kick to the head isn't going to last long. Apart from just being pushed over they risk having their other leg swept or not being able to move quick enough. One of them did a few spinning kicks all in one move but unless you've knocked them out it won't be long before the opponent works out a suitable response. I watched some more earlier and it was laughable how they just got closer and hugged to be reset by the ref, that's the natural point where long range striking is over and close range attacks/grabbs start. It really has tipped my mind back over to us staying away from the Ollies as the "Karate" that would be used would be utter crap and only a few percent of what is useful or learnt. Best phrase from TKD was something about artistic style - so just a lot of high kicks to impress the audience then.....  |
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Post by Bob Davis on Aug 8, 2012 21:58:10 GMT
I had a slight smile following the Judo where they are "players" when watching the TKD the guy commentating would keep refering to them a "fighters". Comedy value aside, it easy to point the finger but the people taking part in this aren't trying to defend themselves they are just competing to a set of rules in a sport. If the rules are a bit silly then the sport will look a bit silly. I don't have a lot of TKD experience, apart from the head of the local TKD group (who really do quite well for students) telling me he didn't like shotokan because it was "too rough".  If you were to take some of the sillier karate competition formats and show the videos and people then extrapolated ALL karate from this snap shot we'd all no doubt be offended and quite defensive. There may well be TKD practitioners out there feeling just the same at present. |
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Post by nathanso on Aug 9, 2012 0:36:01 GMT
I was never a fan of TKD even in the 1960's, when it was much closer to its shotokan roots. The current Olympic version is barely even recognizable as a MA. That said: Seemed all about kicking to the head, if they could employ leg sweeps then most of the attacks would have ended on their backsides. It is pointless to compare what one could do outside the rules of a specific competition. It's like a Muay Thai fighter criticizing a shotokan competitor for not kicking an opponent in the thigh. |
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Post by nathanso on Aug 9, 2012 0:38:58 GMT
TKD..... I dont get it..apparently they score punches so low that it is not deemed worth punching, therefore a guard is superfluous. Watched some this afternoon yawn.... But if karate was in the Olympics, kicks to the head would of course count three times as much as a punch. |
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Post by snorri1 on Aug 9, 2012 10:37:55 GMT
I agree with all the comments about TKD, I'm watching it because there's a local girl Jade competing and expected to do well. I'm finding it painful though. I enjoyed some of the judo even though I don't really understand the scoring and the women's boxing has been a revelation, much better than I expected. This is the first time though that I've watched greco roman wrestling and maybe I'm missing something but it was just about the most boring sport I've ever seen.
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Post by grunners4 on Aug 10, 2012 9:22:28 GMT
Comparing the EKF championships in Tenerife this year to the TKD in the Olympics - to the unknowing eye they look very, very similar...  Judo was slightly more entertaining but they will probably both lift in popularity/funding after this. Karate might very well benefit indirectly by the participation of Judo and TKD in the Olympics due to Joe Soap not knowing any better and walking into their closest dojo (read: anything with white pyjamas) However, would being in the Olympics benefit karate? As a sport, obviously. As a martial art... mmmmnnnngh. From what I have seen, WKF kumite has started to impact mainline (JKA, KWF, SKI, JSKA, JKS) shobu ippon kumite tournaments greatly - and not for the better. From a kata perspective, WKF has apparently already dropped the Shitei kata list (standardised) for 2013. www.karatebyjesse.com/wkf-shitei-kata-removed-nagamine-jkf-bonus/ / Meaning that competitors can perform tokui kata from round 1, with personal interpretation... one more step I believe in the 'dancification' of kata competition. |
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Post by nathanso on Aug 10, 2012 23:42:45 GMT
One of the things that I like about Ohshima's SKA is that they only do kumite in their tournies and no kata- a good way to prevent kata sportification.
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Post by nathanso on Aug 12, 2012 4:49:14 GMT
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), gave up, "Countdown" was more exciting.
